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Date: 15 Jun 2006 15:34:08
From: riverman
Subject: Wilko, fer crying out loud!!
Comon, buddy!! What the hell did you do THAT for? Don't feed the freaking
trolls! Even if TnT <is > SKWNH (which I'm not convinced of either way yet),
poking the boy only gets him pissing all over the group. Kman put it best on
another newsgroup that he was hoarding: he only wants to drag people into
contentious discussions that they cannot win.

I'm off for a couple of 10 day canoe trips in the wilds of Maine, leaving in
about 12 hours, so I'm gonna miss all the fireworks until I get to read the
backposts in mid June. But until then, TRY not to track this dogs**t all
over the house.

Hee hee hee

--riverman






 
Date: 05 Jul 2006 04:28:43
From: Andrew
Subject: Re: Wilko, fer crying out loud!!
Some friends of mine paddled the Eagle River in Labrador recently, two
in kayaks and two in OC1's. There are lots of flies, and portages are
difficult. Some other friends paddled the Pinware a few years ago. I
think they ran more rapids -- they didn't have any OC1's. Same trouble
with flies. Someone got sent to the hospital from bites. There's a
river guide book written by Jim Price and another guy (can't remember
the other author or the name of the book) that has some description of
rivers in Labrador.

An article in the most recent edition of Ebb and Flow magazine, the
provincial kayaking association's magazine, is about a couple who
paddled Ungava Bay and the coast of Labrador. You can view the article
from
http://www.kayakers.nf.ca/club_activities/Ebbflow%20Magazine/ebb_flow.htm

Andrew

> One my flight back to the US, I flew over Labrador and had my nose
> glued to the window. Looks like a very interesting place to paddle.
> Anyone with experience there?
>
> Blakely



 
Date: 03 Jul 2006 07:26:29
From: Railtramp
Subject: Re: Wilko, fer crying out loud!!

John Fereira wrote:
>
> FWIW, I've been participating on usenet for 21 years and have always posted
> under my RL name.
> >
> > One my flight back to the US, I flew over Labrador and had my nose
> > glued to the window. Looks like a very interesting place to paddle.
> > Anyone with experience there?
>
> Check out a book called "Rowing to Latitude". In it, the author and her
> husband row (he paddles a kayak for some of the trips) the coast of
> Labrador, as well as several other expediations including most of the
> coastline of Alaska, the Yukon river, a good portion of Greenland, the
> entire coastline of Norway, and a circumnavigation of Spitzbergen. Even
> though the author rows (a boat that was converted from a Necky Amaruk tandem
> kayak), the book is well written and it sounded like Labrador was one of the
> most enjoyable expeditions.

I actually have the book and read it a couple of years back. Thanks
for the reminder - I will go back and re-read it. I recall that they
did not like Greenland very much because it was so trashy (who would've
thought). And I loved the ToughLuckKabloona wedding vow.

The interior of Labrador looked awesome. I also read the Davidson &
Rugge book Great Heart. Of course, one would like to avoid the death
by starvation experience. It does look like a place that someoe could
go and get lost for a while.

The ice was off most of Hudson Bay with some still in parts of James
Bay (NW side mostly) and some off the NE coast of Labrador.

----

As for naming, you were actually one of a number of r.b.p people who
inspired me to use my RL name in my usenet newbie days. I think it was
the high number of "real people" who made the group as strong as it was
for a while. On the flip side , it has to be remembered that both
Scottt W. and Tim I. used their RL names too.

Blakely
---
Blakely LaCroix
Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA

The best adventure is yet to come



 
Date: 02 Jul 2006 16:59:44
From: Railtramp
Subject: Re: Wilko, fer crying out loud!!
riverman wrote:
>
> I'm off for a couple of 10 day canoe trips in the wilds of Maine, leaving in
> about 12 hours, so I'm gonna miss all the fireworks until I get to read the
> backposts in mid June. But until then, TRY not to track this dogs**t all
> over the house.
>
> Hee hee hee
>
> --riverman

Sounds like fun Riverman. I just got back from some ancestal homeland
wanderings and hope to honor my promise to myself not to waste this
summer (like too many in the past).

I suspect there are still lots of formerly active r.b.p folks who still
check the group. It is real easy to read these days since the number
of posts are way down. Most of the real disruptors are known and the
Google profile is an easy way to access posting histories. A couple of
clicks easily reveals an individual's web persona.

I have always believed that using signing with real life names keeps
one honest and accountable. Maybe that is why there was such a solid
core to r.b.p years back - we all used our IRL names. Hard to build
relationships with phantoms.

One my flight back to the US, I flew over Labrador and had my nose
glued to the window. Looks like a very interesting place to paddle.
Anyone with experience there?

Blakely
---
Blakely LaCroix
Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA.

"The best adventure is yet to come"



  
Date: 03 Jul 2006 10:59:16
From: John Fereira
Subject: Re: Wilko, fer crying out loud!!
"Railtramp" <Railtramp@aol.com > wrote in
news:1151884784.346214.156880@j8g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> riverman wrote:
>>
>> I'm off for a couple of 10 day canoe trips in the wilds of Maine,
>> leaving in about 12 hours, so I'm gonna miss all the fireworks until I
>> get to read the backposts in mid June. But until then, TRY not to
>> track this dogs**t all over the house.
>>
>> Hee hee hee
>>
>> --riverman
>
> Sounds like fun Riverman. I just got back from some ancestal homeland
> wanderings and hope to honor my promise to myself not to waste this
> summer (like too many in the past).
>
> I suspect there are still lots of formerly active r.b.p folks who still
> check the group. It is real easy to read these days since the number
> of posts are way down. Most of the real disruptors are known and the
> Google profile is an easy way to access posting histories. A couple of
> clicks easily reveals an individual's web persona.
>
> I have always believed that using signing with real life names keeps
> one honest and accountable. Maybe that is why there was such a solid
> core to r.b.p years back - we all used our IRL names. Hard to build
> relationships with phantoms.

FWIW, I've been participating on usenet for 21 years and have always posted
under my RL name.
>
> One my flight back to the US, I flew over Labrador and had my nose
> glued to the window. Looks like a very interesting place to paddle.
> Anyone with experience there?

Check out a book called "Rowing to Latitude". In it, the author and her
husband row (he paddles a kayak for some of the trips) the coast of
Labrador, as well as several other expediations including most of the
coastline of Alaska, the Yukon river, a good portion of Greenland, the
entire coastline of Norway, and a circumnavigation of Spitzbergen. Even
though the author rows (a boat that was converted from a Necky Amaruk tandem
kayak), the book is well written and it sounded like Labrador was one of the
most enjoyable expeditions.


 
Date: 16 Jun 2006 06:59:48
From: Tinkerntom
Subject: Re: Wilko, fer crying out loud!!

Sees-koo-wee-hah-nay wrote:
> RkyMtnHootOwl wrote:
> > riverman wrote:
> > > Comon, buddy!! What the hell did you do THAT for? Don't feed the freaking
> > > trolls! Even if TnT <is> SKWNH (which I'm not convinced of either way yet),
> > > poking the boy only gets him pissing all over the group. Kman put it best on
>
> >
> > Wilko already stepped in it, a quote from his web page:
> >
> > "Recently a new addition to the list of RBP trolls showed up, although
> > maybe he should be regarded as a netkook instead. He's changed his
> > screen name several times, but he could be recognised by the sheer
> > volume of his posts. So far he's used TinkernTom, Hanta Yo-Yo,
> > RkyMtnHootOwl and lately Siskuwihane, also written as
> > "Sees-koo-wee-hah-nay". <snip>
>
> Wilko,
>
> The other way siskuwihane is written is simply how to pronounce it.
> It's from the Leni Lenape.

He has us plonked so he won't hear anything you say! Ignorance is
bliss! and Wilko is very blissful! You know how Wilko plonks, he
reaches up his ass, and squeezes off the blood supply to his brain!
TnT OvO HYY



 
Date: 16 Jun 2006 04:40:14
From: Sees-koo-wee-hah-nay
Subject: Re: Wilko, fer crying out loud!!

RkyMtnHootOwl wrote:
> riverman wrote:
> > Comon, buddy!! What the hell did you do THAT for? Don't feed the freaking
> > trolls! Even if TnT <is> SKWNH (which I'm not convinced of either way yet),
> > poking the boy only gets him pissing all over the group. Kman put it best on

>
> Wilko already stepped in it, a quote from his web page:
>
> "Recently a new addition to the list of RBP trolls showed up, although
> maybe he should be regarded as a netkook instead. He's changed his
> screen name several times, but he could be recognised by the sheer
> volume of his posts. So far he's used TinkernTom, Hanta Yo-Yo,
> RkyMtnHootOwl and lately Siskuwihane, also written as
> "Sees-koo-wee-hah-nay". <snip>

Wilko,

The other way siskuwihane is written is simply how to pronounce it.
It's from the Leni Lenape.



 
Date: 16 Jun 2006 00:29:17
From: RkyMtnHootOwl
Subject: Re: Wilko, fer crying out loud!!

riverman wrote:
> Comon, buddy!! What the hell did you do THAT for? Don't feed the freaking
> trolls! Even if TnT <is> SKWNH (which I'm not convinced of either way yet),
> poking the boy only gets him pissing all over the group. Kman put it best on
> another newsgroup that he was hoarding: he only wants to drag people into
> contentious discussions that they cannot win.
>
> I'm off for a couple of 10 day canoe trips in the wilds of Maine, leaving in
> about 12 hours, so I'm gonna miss all the fireworks until I get to read the
> backposts in mid June. But until then, TRY not to track this dogs**t all
> over the house.
>
> Hee hee hee
>
> --riverman

Wilko already stepped in it, a quote from his web page:

"Recently a new addition to the list of RBP trolls showed up, although
maybe he should be regarded as a netkook instead. He's changed his
screen name several times, but he could be recognised by the sheer
volume of his posts. So far he's used TinkernTom, Hanta Yo-Yo,
RkyMtnHootOwl and lately Siskuwihane, also written as
"Sees-koo-wee-hah-nay". Alas, one of the people who went after him the
hardest had seemingly joined him in pestering RBP. Kman aka Kieran
couldn't stop responding to any post that RkyMtnHootOwl made, in effect
giving the troll the attention he craved, while doubling the nuisance
to RBP.

At the beginning of 2006, Kman started to notice that a lot of regulars
were ignoring him as well, and he started to behave much like the troll
he was complaining about the most, launching ad hominum attacks and
accusing others of elitism. Kman seems to have left RBP now (April
2006), but Siskuwihane is still around, recently joined again by his
own TinkernTom ID. "


Then being the expert on trolls, he maintains that you should never
feed a troll! Of course its different if you are an expert, then you
can do it all the time! If I am a troll then why did you feed me
Wilko!

Oh wait, you said I was a netkook, thats different! LOL!!!! OvO



 
Date: 15 Jun 2006 07:34:17
From: Tinkerntom
Subject: Wilko the Jackass

Wilko wrote:
> riverman wrote:
> > Comon, buddy!! What the hell did you do THAT for? Don't feed the freaking
> > trolls!
>
> Yeah, I know... Don't worry, I'll ignore him from now.
>
> > I'm off for a couple of 10 day canoe trips in the wilds of Maine, leaving in
> > about 12 hours, so I'm gonna miss all the fireworks until I get to read the
> > backposts in mid June. But until then, TRY not to track this dogs**t all
> > over the house.
>
> Have fun canoeing!
>
> Wilko
>
Wacko Wilko, acting like a jackass! Proves that even a jackass can act,
well like a big jackass! TnT



 
Date: 15 Jun 2006 05:55:37
From: Wilko
Subject: Re: Wilko, fer crying out loud!!
riverman wrote:
> Comon, buddy!! What the hell did you do THAT for? Don't feed the freaking
> trolls!

Yeah, I know... Don't worry, I'll ignore him from now.

> I'm off for a couple of 10 day canoe trips in the wilds of Maine, leaving in
> about 12 hours, so I'm gonna miss all the fireworks until I get to read the
> backposts in mid June. But until then, TRY not to track this dogs**t all
> over the house.

Have fun canoeing!

Wilko

--
Wilko van den Bergh wilko<a t)dse(d o t >nl
Eindhoven The Netherlands Europe
---Look at the possibilities, don't worry about the limitations.---
http://kayaker.nl/



  
Date: 15 Jun 2006 22:52:50
From: riverman
Subject: Re: Wilko, fer crying out loud!!

"Wilko" <wilko@dse.nl > wrote in message
news:1150376137.436290.285780@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> riverman wrote:
>> I'm off for a couple of 10 day canoe trips in the wilds of Maine, leaving
>> in
>> about 12 hours, so I'm gonna miss all the fireworks until I get to read
>> the
>> backposts in mid June. But until then, TRY not to track this dogs**t all
>> over the house.
>
> Have fun canoeing!
>
>

Oh, you know it! Spent the last 3 summers getting my Master's, and the
winters trapped in Congo. This will be the first extended trip (or two) that
I've managed to get on in 4 summers. Looking forward to remembering why I
quit doing it for a living.

The water in Maine is very high: about 90% of capacity, and the river we're
doing is going to be a lot of miles of intermittent class 2. Should be a lot
of fun...I'll post a TR when I get back.

--riverman




   
Date: 15 Jun 2006 10:58:47
From: Charlie Choc
Subject: Re: Wilko, fer crying out loud!!
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:52:50 +0800, "riverman" <nospam@sorry.com > wrote:

> Should be a lot
>of fun...I'll post a TR when I get back.
>
Have a good time Myron.
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com


    
Date: 15 Jun 2006 23:05:38
From: riverman
Subject: Re: Wilko, fer crying out loud!!

"Charlie Choc" <charlie.choc@gmail.com.invalid > wrote in message
news:ect292tgkt2pl63qnfpr5cp0aealthqt0c@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:52:50 +0800, "riverman" <nospam@sorry.com> wrote:
>
>> Should be a lot
>>of fun...I'll post a TR when I get back.
>>
> Have a good time Myron.
> --
>

Hey thanks, Charlie. I forgot that you lurk here, its nice to hear from you.
Are you out on the road right now, or back in Atlanta?

--riverman




     
Date: 15 Jun 2006 11:14:17
From: Charlie Choc
Subject: Re: Wilko, fer crying out loud!!
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:05:38 +0800, "riverman" <nospam@sorry.com > wrote:

>Hey thanks, Charlie. I forgot that you lurk here, its nice to hear from you.
>Are you out on the road right now, or back in Atlanta?
>
Just got back from a 4 week camping trip last weekend. Still sorting through the
pictures I took.
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com


      
Date: 16 Jun 2006 23:14:07
From: Joe McIntosh
Subject: Re: Wilko, fer crying out loud!!

"Charlie Choc" <charlie.choc@gmail.com.invalid > wrote in message
news:q5u292hngd0ct42ao1luib64vk7aacf8se@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:05:38 +0800, "riverman" <nospam@sorry.com> wrote:
>
>>Hey thanks, Charlie. I forgot that you lurk here, its nice to hear from
>>you.
>>Are you out on the road right now, or back in Atlanta?
>>
> Just got back from a 4 week camping trip last weekend. Still sorting
> through the
> pictures I took.
> --
> Charlie...
> http://www.chocphoto.com

Indian Joe states--damm Charlie , you turn up everywhere !Will be in your
town next Thursday on the way to Lake Lanier to bid on a new Levitt home
and would enjoy joining you for a meal, but damm if I'm fighting y our style
traffic just to eat at McDonalds. What side of town is your tepee??? I'll
be in Decatur [?]
Any suggestions appreciated ij




       
Date: 16 Jun 2006 19:35:24
From: Charlie Choc
Subject: Re: Wilko, fer crying out loud!!
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 23:14:07 GMT, "Joe McIntosh" <joedene@worldnet.att.net >
wrote:

>Indian Joe states--damm Charlie , you turn up everywhere !Will be in your
>town next Thursday on the way to Lake Lanier to bid on a new Levitt home
>and would enjoy joining you for a meal, but damm if I'm fighting y our style
>traffic just to eat at McDonalds. What side of town is your tepee??? I'll
>be in Decatur [?]
>Any suggestions appreciated ij
>
I'm in East Cobb (near Roswell), I'm not sure you can get here from Decatur. <g >
Actually, I'm pretty much straight up GA 400 from there, on the way to Lake
Lanier.
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com