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Date: 04 May 2005 07:06:14
From: donquijote1954
Subject: Too big for Necky Manitou?
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Howdy
I wonder if I'm to big at 6'1", 235lbs for the Manitou at 12'10"x25"...
I will be trying it on the store for size but not on water. And I'm
kind of set on this kayak because of the seat. High back and won't
absorb water (or pee)...
Necky doesn't provide weight capacity so I'm left in the dark.
Thanks!
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Date: 08 May 2005 08:26:16
From: donquijote1954
Subject: Re: Too big for Necky Manitou?
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Frederick Burroughs wrote:
> donquijote1954 wrote:
>
> >
> > You mention the seat, is it really comfortable? I got an Scrambler
with
> > the gray nonabsorbing seat that looks the same as in the Manitou
and it
> > kills my back after a couple of hours. The Manitou's got a much
higher
> > back though.
> >
>
> Took a slow, leisurely 6 hr. paddle today; 10 miles on the North Fork
> of the Shenandoah River in Virginia. Put in was at Burnshire Bridge
> near Woodstock, VA. Take out was at Buck Hedley low-water bridge. I
> paddled 3 mi. past my scheduled take out. Luckily, I met a friend
> driving a tractor across the bridge where I ended up, and he gave me
a
> ride back to my car.
>
> Seat back was comfortable. I had no back pain at all. But, my left
> thigh would occasionally cramp. I adjust the foot braces so my thighs
> are braced against the sides of the cockpit. In calm water I can
> stretch my legs and relax a bit. Also, the cockpit is big enough to
> draw my knees up against my chest and exercise the muscles and
joints.
> It helps a lot. Of course, getting out for an occasional stretch does
> wonders.
>
> Here are some pictures:
>
http://www.user.shentel.net/riburr/paddle2005/northforkshenandoah050705.html
Awesome pictures. Thanks! Nice to hear about the seat.
I don't plan to load it that much, but still concerned about the
capacity of it. Now I'm also considering pro kayaks like the WS Tempest
and Dagger Halifax, both 17'...
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Date: 08 May 2005 12:18:02
From: Frederick Burroughs
Subject: Re: Too big for Necky Manitou?
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donquijote1954 wrote:
> Frederick Burroughs wrote:
>
>>donquijote1954 wrote:
>>
>>>You mention the seat, is it really comfortable?
>>
>>Seat back was comfortable. I had no back pain at all. But, my left
>>thigh would occasionally cramp. I adjust the foot braces so my thighs
>>are braced against the sides of the cockpit. In calm water I can
>>stretch my legs and relax a bit. Also, the cockpit is big enough to
>>draw my knees up against my chest and exercise the muscles and
>>joints. It helps a lot. Of course, getting out for an occasional
>>stretch does wonders.
>>
>>Here are some pictures:
>>
> http://www.user.shentel.net/riburr/paddle2005/northforkshenandoah050705.html
>
> Awesome pictures. Thanks! Nice to hear about the seat.
>
> I don't plan to load it that much, but still concerned about the
> capacity of it. Now I'm also considering pro kayaks like the WS Tempest
> and Dagger Halifax, both 17'...
>
Yeah, I think a 17'er is probably a better fit. I don't do serious
touring. The Manitou is ideal for a day, two at the most, on the
rivers around my home. Both the North and South Fork of the Shenandoah
Rivers are just 10 minutes from my house. I'm on either river within
15 minutes of getting my ass off the couch. Also, both rivers can get
low at times, so I had to factor in a lot of sliding and scraping
(i.e. inexpensive polyethylene). Enjoy your new boat!
--
"This president has destroyed the country, the economy,
the relationship with the rest of the world.
He's a monster in the White House. He should resign."
- Hunter S. Thompson, speaking to an antiwar audience in 2003.
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Date: 06 May 2005 21:01:59
From: donquijote1954
Subject: Re: Too big for Necky Manitou?
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Frederick Burroughs wrote:
> > It seems to me like a 300lb capacity kayak. The question is whether
is
> > OK to have, say, 280lb (me plus gear) on 300lb kayak.
> >
>
> 300 lbs. sounds about right. But, I think paddling.net lists the
limit
> for kayaks of similar dimensions as low as 250 lbs. So, you're gonna
> be near the limit w/gear.
>
> I can speak for the watertightness of the hatch. In the linked
> pictures, I took a spill in the pictured rapids. All my stowed stuff,
> clothes, food and camera, sans drybag, stayed dry as a bone. See:
> http://www.user.shentel.net/riburr/paddle2005/necky040905.htm
>
> The seat is the newer design, which can be adjusted up and down, back
> and forth.
Nice pictures. The boat is really beautiful though I haven't seen it in
person. All the reviews are tops.
You mention the seat, is it really comfortable? I got an Scrambler with
the gray nonabsorbing seat that looks the same as in the Manitou and it
kills my back after a couple of hours. The Manitou's got a much higher
back though.
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Date: 07 May 2005 18:12:11
From: Frederick Burroughs
Subject: Re: Too big for Necky Manitou?
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donquijote1954 wrote:
>
> You mention the seat, is it really comfortable? I got an Scrambler with
> the gray nonabsorbing seat that looks the same as in the Manitou and it
> kills my back after a couple of hours. The Manitou's got a much higher
> back though.
>
Took a slow, leisurely 6 hr. paddle today; 10 miles on the North Fork
of the Shenandoah River in Virginia. Put in was at Burnshire Bridge
near Woodstock, VA. Take out was at Buck Hedley low-water bridge. I
paddled 3 mi. past my scheduled take out. Luckily, I met a friend
driving a tractor across the bridge where I ended up, and he gave me a
ride back to my car.
Seat back was comfortable. I had no back pain at all. But, my left
thigh would occasionally cramp. I adjust the foot braces so my thighs
are braced against the sides of the cockpit. In calm water I can
stretch my legs and relax a bit. Also, the cockpit is big enough to
draw my knees up against my chest and exercise the muscles and joints.
It helps a lot. Of course, getting out for an occasional stretch does
wonders.
Here are some pictures:
http://www.user.shentel.net/riburr/paddle2005/northforkshenandoah050705.html
--
"This president has destroyed the country, the economy,
the relationship with the rest of the world.
He's a monster in the White House. He should resign."
- Hunter S. Thompson, speaking to an antiwar audience in 2003.
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Date: 08 May 2005 00:56:33
From: No Spam
Subject: Re: Too big for Necky Manitou?
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Frederick Burroughs wrote:
> donquijote1954 wrote:
>
>>
>> You mention the seat, is it really comfortable? I got an Scrambler with
>> the gray nonabsorbing seat that looks the same as in the Manitou and it
>> kills my back after a couple of hours. The Manitou's got a much higher
>> back though.
>>
>
> Took a slow, leisurely 6 hr. paddle today; 10 miles on the North Fork of
> the Shenandoah River in Virginia. Put in was at Burnshire Bridge near
> Woodstock, VA. Take out was at Buck Hedley low-water bridge. I paddled 3
> mi. past my scheduled take out. Luckily, I met a friend driving a
> tractor across the bridge where I ended up, and he gave me a ride back
> to my car.
>
> Seat back was comfortable. I had no back pain at all. But, my left thigh
> would occasionally cramp. I adjust the foot braces so my thighs are
> braced against the sides of the cockpit. In calm water I can stretch my
> legs and relax a bit. Also, the cockpit is big enough to draw my knees
> up against my chest and exercise the muscles and joints. It helps a lot.
> Of course, getting out for an occasional stretch does wonders.
>
> Here are some pictures:
> http://www.user.shentel.net/riburr/paddle2005/northforkshenandoah050705.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
How's the water temp in Virginia. I'm in PA and if not for some work
stuff I would be getting out this week. Oh well, first trip out will
have to wait another week. I think the club has an evening outing on the
Allegheny after work next week. The air temp is supposed to come up this
next week so the water should follow soon enough. Glad to see someone is
getting out.
Yeah, I know some of you paddle if there is a break in the ice but I
will stick to winter hiking and leave the ice water to you guys.
Ken
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Date: 07 May 2005 21:41:29
From: Frederick Burroughs
Subject: Re: Too big for Necky Manitou?
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No Spam wrote:
>
> How's the water temp in Virginia. I'm in PA and if not for some work
> stuff I would be getting out this week. Oh well, first trip out will
> have to wait another week. I think the club has an evening outing on the
> Allegheny after work next week. The air temp is supposed to come up this
> next week so the water should follow soon enough. Glad to see someone is
> getting out.
>
Average water temp is probably in the mid to upper 50s F. Air temp
this morning at 7 AM was in the mid-30s, warming to the mid-60s by
noon; we're in a cool spell. It's supposed to be warmer on Sunday.
--
"This president has destroyed the country, the economy,
the relationship with the rest of the world.
He's a monster in the White House. He should resign."
- Hunter S. Thompson, speaking to an antiwar audience in 2003.
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Date: 05 May 2005 20:57:58
From: donquijote1954
Subject: Re: Too big for Necky Manitou?
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Frederick Burroughs wrote:
> donquijote1954 wrote:
>
> > Howdy
> > I wonder if I'm to big at 6'1", 235lbs for the Manitou at
12'10"x25"...
> >
> > I will be trying it on the store for size but not on water. And I'm
> > kind of set on this kayak because of the seat. High back and won't
> > absorb water (or pee)...
> >
> > Necky doesn't provide weight capacity so I'm left in the dark.
> >
>
> I'm 5'11" and tip the scales at almost 200 lbs. The Manitou is a
> perfect fit for me. I paddle a low volume, tranquil river, hardly
> class II in the roughest stretches. I enjoy the hell out of it.
>
> You might go to the buyer's guide section in paddling.net and check
> the weight limits for kayaks of similar dimension.
Thanks. I'll check into that.
It seems to me like a 300lb capacity kayak. The question is whether is
OK to have, say, 280lb (me plus gear) on 300lb kayak.
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Date: 06 May 2005 07:29:38
From: Frederick Burroughs
Subject: Re: Too big for Necky Manitou?
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donquijote1954 wrote:
> Frederick Burroughs wrote:
>
>>donquijote1954 wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Howdy
>>>I wonder if I'm to big at 6'1", 235lbs for the Manitou at
>>>12'10"x25"...
>
>>>I will be trying it on the store for size but not on water. And I'm
>>>kind of set on this kayak because of the seat. High back and won't
>>>absorb water (or pee)...
>>>
>>>Necky doesn't provide weight capacity so I'm left in the dark.
>>>
>>>
>>I'm 5'11" and tip the scales at almost 200 lbs. The Manitou is a
>>perfect fit for me. I paddle a low volume, tranquil river, hardly
>>class II in the roughest stretches. I enjoy the hell out of it.
>>
>>You might go to the buyer's guide section in paddling.net and check
>>the weight limits for kayaks of similar dimension.
>>
>
> Thanks. I'll check into that.
>
> It seems to me like a 300lb capacity kayak. The question is whether is
> OK to have, say, 280lb (me plus gear) on 300lb kayak.
>
300 lbs. sounds about right. But, I think paddling.net lists the limit
for kayaks of similar dimensions as low as 250 lbs. So, you're gonna
be near the limit w/gear.
I can speak for the watertightness of the hatch. In the linked
pictures, I took a spill in the pictured rapids. All my stowed stuff,
clothes, food and camera, sans drybag, stayed dry as a bone. See:
http://www.user.shentel.net/riburr/paddle2005/necky040905.htm
The seat is the newer design, which can be adjusted up and down, back
and forth.
--
"This president has destroyed the country, the economy,
the relationship with the rest of the world.
He's a monster in the White House. He should resign."
- Hunter S. Thompson, speaking to an antiwar audience in 2003.
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Date: 04 May 2005 22:41:51
From: Frederick Burroughs
Subject: Re: Too big for Necky Manitou?
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donquijote1954 wrote:
> Howdy
> I wonder if I'm to big at 6'1", 235lbs for the Manitou at 12'10"x25"...
>
> I will be trying it on the store for size but not on water. And I'm
> kind of set on this kayak because of the seat. High back and won't
> absorb water (or pee)...
>
> Necky doesn't provide weight capacity so I'm left in the dark.
>
I'm 5'11" and tip the scales at almost 200 lbs. The Manitou is a
perfect fit for me. I paddle a low volume, tranquil river, hardly
class II in the roughest stretches. I enjoy the hell out of it.
You might go to the buyer's guide section in paddling.net and check
the weight limits for kayaks of similar dimension.
--
"This president has destroyed the country, the economy,
the relationship with the rest of the world.
He's a monster in the White House. He should resign."
- Hunter S. Thompson, speaking to an antiwar audience in 2003.
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