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Date: 24 Jul 2006 11:19:09
From: studiorat
Subject: Hello and Help!!!
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Hi to all,
I'm just returning to kayaking after a long time and everything looks
different. I love the look of those playboats like Basket Ball trainers
:o) cool...
Anyhow I'm in the market for something for weekend river trips and
maybe a day at the beach now and again, nothing to hectic. I was
looking at some sea touring Kayaks but the man in the shop tells me it
would probably break on shallow rapids, I guess he's right.
Is there anything available that would take say a 40 liter dry bag
behind the seat or somewhere and be ok for river and sea trips.
Thanks.
Dave
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Date: 01 Aug 2006 14:07:39
From: Oci-One Kanubi
Subject: Re: Hello and Help!!!
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John Fereira wrote:
> "studiorat" <daveslevin@02.ie> wrote in news:1153765149.374501.261530
> @h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Hi to all,
> > I'm just returning to kayaking after a long time and everything looks
> > different. I love the look of those playboats like Basket Ball trainers
> >:o) cool...
> >
> > Anyhow I'm in the market for something for weekend river trips and
> > maybe a day at the beach now and again, nothing to hectic. I was
> > looking at some sea touring Kayaks but the man in the shop tells me it
> > would probably break on shallow rapids, I guess he's right.
>
> Not necessarily. Touring kayaks are available in fiberglass, kevlar,
> carbon/kevlar, and quite commonly, polyethelene plastic. The last is the
> same material used in whitewater boats. In other words, a plastic touring
> kayak isn't any more likely to break no shallow rapids than a whitewater
> kayak. However, as they're less manoeverable the likelyhood that you'll run
> into more rocks is higher with a touring boat.
> >
> > Is there anything available that would take say a 40 liter dry bag
> > behind the seat or somewhere and be ok for river and sea trips.
>
> It all depends on the type of rivers you're considering. There are lots of
> day touring boats that can handle class I and non-technical class II rivers
> if paddle by someone with intermediate skills. Someone with less than
> intermediate skills is probably better off not going out in class II or
> higher or the open sea.
Yuh, "polyethelene kayaks" would include the Dagger Blackwater,
Element, Echo, and Zydeco. Just google up "Dagger Kayaks".
-Richard, His Kanubic Travesty
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Date: 30 Jul 2006 11:09:13
From: mucker111
Subject: Re: Hello and Help!!!
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My girlfriend and I just got our Pungo 140's.
They might be a bit longer than you're looking so the 100/120 might be
for you.
THere's a dry hold in the rear and I've read of some people
"waterproofing" their bow, as there's a hatch there.
I'm a big guy (6ft/~300) and love this for the size....it's hard to
capsize, which means it's hard to right it too.
Length is about 13ft I think...it's poly plastic and not heavy at all
(for me).
I mostly plan on flatwater, but I'm sure I'll shoot the babyrapids
rather than portage around!
Cheers
studiorat wrote:
> Thanks guys,
> I've been thinking about for a bit now and I think I may now go for a
> 14ft Old Town Canadian I saw the other day. It seems practical for
> weekenders and looks like there could be some thrills involved too. In
> fact I'm just booking a few lessons to make sure I like the open
> boat...
>
> Thanks again for your time,
> Dave
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Date: 27 Jul 2006 07:58:32
From: studiorat
Subject: Re: Hello and Help!!!
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Thanks guys,
I've been thinking about for a bit now and I think I may now go for a
14ft Old Town Canadian I saw the other day. It seems practical for
weekenders and looks like there could be some thrills involved too. In
fact I'm just booking a few lessons to make sure I like the open
boat...
Thanks again for your time,
Dave
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Date: 26 Jul 2006 19:22:25
From: Larry C
Subject: Re: Hello and Help!!!
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studiorat wrote:
> Hi to all,
> I'm just returning to kayaking after a long time and everything looks
> different. I love the look of those playboats like Basket Ball trainers
> :o) cool...
>
> Anyhow I'm in the market for something for weekend river trips and
> maybe a day at the beach now and again, nothing to hectic. I was
> looking at some sea touring Kayaks but the man in the shop tells me it
> would probably break on shallow rapids, I guess he's right.
>
> Is there anything available that would take say a 40 liter dry bag
> behind the seat or somewhere and be ok for river and sea trips.
>
> Thanks.
> Dave
There are a number of plastic recreational/light touring kayaks
available if you are talking about non whitewater rivers along with
lakes and bays. There used to be several "hybrid' kayaks, touring
kayaks capable of handling moderate whitewater, but most of these are
discontinued now. There are a couple of exceptions, the Prijon Combi is
a new model hybrid and Prijon still makes the Yukon, which will handle
non technical whitewater, a 14' boat is a bit hard to get into those
micro eddies. I have a Yukon Expedition that I use on overnighter+
river trips and it handles open whitewater fine and is pretty fast for
a 14' boat. I haven't tried a Combi, but the shorter length would make
it better for serious river running.
Riot and Dagger also made hybrids, the Crossover from Dagger and I
don't remember the name of the Riot boat.
Larry
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Date: 25 Jul 2006 22:55:19
From: John Fereira
Subject: Re: Hello and Help!!!
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"studiorat" <daveslevin@02.ie > wrote in news:1153765149.374501.261530
@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
> Hi to all,
> I'm just returning to kayaking after a long time and everything looks
> different. I love the look of those playboats like Basket Ball trainers
>:o) cool...
>
> Anyhow I'm in the market for something for weekend river trips and
> maybe a day at the beach now and again, nothing to hectic. I was
> looking at some sea touring Kayaks but the man in the shop tells me it
> would probably break on shallow rapids, I guess he's right.
Not necessarily. Touring kayaks are available in fiberglass, kevlar,
carbon/kevlar, and quite commonly, polyethelene plastic. The last is the
same material used in whitewater boats. In other words, a plastic touring
kayak isn't any more likely to break no shallow rapids than a whitewater
kayak. However, as they're less manoeverable the likelyhood that you'll run
into more rocks is higher with a touring boat.
>
> Is there anything available that would take say a 40 liter dry bag
> behind the seat or somewhere and be ok for river and sea trips.
It all depends on the type of rivers you're considering. There are lots of
day touring boats that can handle class I and non-technical class II rivers
if paddle by someone with intermediate skills. Someone with less than
intermediate skills is probably better off not going out in class II or
higher or the open sea.
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Date: 25 Jul 2006 06:25:54
From: studiorat
Subject: Re: Hello and Help!!!
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Thanks,
I'm starting to see a few manufacturers and models turning up again and
again.
The the Yukon caught my eye the Dagger kinda looks trick though. :o)
D.
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Date: 24 Jul 2006 18:45:47
From: Grip
Subject: Re: Hello and Help!!!
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Big old school creek boat would do it for ya......overflow X maybe, or any
old river runner like a pirouette, Tornado, more modern stuff Dagger Mamba,
(my fave) or Prijon Hercules...another consideration.....
Before going 99% to white water, I used to paddle(still have it) a Prijon
Yukon Expedtion, great touring boat that will handle some WW (wide open
white water), nor technical stuff. Comfy, lots of storage, very easy to
roll.
"studiorat" <daveslevin@02.ie > wrote in message
news:1153765149.374501.261530@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Hi to all,
> I'm just returning to kayaking after a long time and everything looks
> different. I love the look of those playboats like Basket Ball trainers
> :o) cool...
>
> Anyhow I'm in the market for something for weekend river trips and
> maybe a day at the beach now and again, nothing to hectic. I was
> looking at some sea touring Kayaks but the man in the shop tells me it
> would probably break on shallow rapids, I guess he's right.
>
> Is there anything available that would take say a 40 liter dry bag
> behind the seat or somewhere and be ok for river and sea trips.
>
> Thanks.
> Dave
>
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